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on the role of government, i don't think the president had a good answer. >> reporter: finally, bottom line, who won? nicole? >> mitt romney. >> i'm sticking with barack obama. >> reporter: surprise. >> mitt romney. he comes away with this. he's going to tie the race back up. 30-day race coming at it. it's going to be close. >> reporter: matt, donna, nicole, thank you for joining us. that's the "nightline" report card. just ahead, while president obama failed to make any mention of mitt romney's 47% comment tonight, that doesn't mean this debate wasn't a numbers game. we're going to unravel this campaign's war of the percentages. how can you get back pain relief that lasts up to 16 hours? with thermacare heatwraps. thermacare works differently. it's the only wrap with patented heat cells that penetrate deep to relax, soothe, and unlock tight muscles. for up to 16 hours of relief, try thermacare. hey, travis... get some friends, loser! so, are you all right, man? ♪ lean on me, thanks. ♪ when you're not strong, and i'll be your friend. ♪ ♪ i'll help you carry on... ♪ what does
on the role of government, i don't think the president had a good answer. >> reporter: finally, bottom line, who won? nicole? >> mitt romney. >> i'm sticking with barack obama. >> reporter: surprise. >> mitt romney. he comes away with this. he's going to tie the race back up. 30-day race coming at it. it's going to be close. >> reporter: matt, donna, nicole, thank you for joining us. that's the "nightline" report card. just ahead, while president...
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to pay for government-run healthcare, you'll pay higher taxes and more for your medicine. and their plan includes a trillion dollars in higher taxes. even on the middle class. mitt romney and common sense conservatives will cut taxes on the middle class. and they'll close loopholes for millionaires. obama and his liberal allies? we'tan't afford four more years. [ romney] i'm mitt romney and i approve this message. >>> one surprise tonight. while everyone expected to hear about the percentage that's been making waves the past few weeks, mitt romney's controversial 47% comments, con speck wasly absent tonight. that doesn't mean the percentage didn't get its due, because it's become this year's hot political pep of choice and abc's david wright is doing the math. >> reporter: in this year of rotten economic news, unemployment at 8%, economic growth, less than 2%, deficit up 54% in four years, 60% say we're on the wrong track. the challenger ought to have a pretty good argument. >> middle income americans have been buried. they're just being crushed. >> reporter: but this year
to pay for government-run healthcare, you'll pay higher taxes and more for your medicine. and their plan includes a trillion dollars in higher taxes. even on the middle class. mitt romney and common sense conservatives will cut taxes on the middle class. and they'll close loopholes for millionaires. obama and his liberal allies? we'tan't afford four more years. [ romney] i'm mitt romney and i approve this message. >>> one surprise tonight. while everyone expected to hear about the...
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. >> in the council of government, we must cordons to the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought by the military- industrial complex. >> why was that speech so important? >> it warned against the military industrial complex. it is a cliche now. people did not think much of the speech at the moment, but they have since then. he spent much of his presidency making sure the military did not get out of hand. he kept military spending city. that was hard to do in the 1950's. tremendous pressure. we were creating a nuclear arsenal. he invented this -- his own service. military spending in the 1950's was 70% of the federal budget, today is about 25%. >> next sunday on a " q&a." >> see the vice presidential debates, this thursday night, live on c-span, c-span.org radi. next, your calls and comments on "washington journal." cent at 8:00 p.m., a debate in the u. s senate race. c-span's web site provides live coverage of all of the debates. it is the only place you'll see the behind the scenes excites and sounds before and after the debates. watch your created clips as we
. >> in the council of government, we must cordons to the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought by the military- industrial complex. >> why was that speech so important? >> it warned against the military industrial complex. it is a cliche now. people did not think much of the speech at the moment, but they have since then. he spent much of his presidency making sure the military did not get out of hand. he kept military spending city. that was hard...
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at that time the vietnam was divided into north and south the us supported the government of south vietnam and military intervention intensified after nine hundred sixty five. but the us made strong resistance from guerrilla forces who used dense jungle as their base of operations. defoliant spraying was begun in an effort to deny cover to the guerrillas by eliminating the jungle falling which. as the war escalated the spraying of deval and increased dramatically and much of the land in south vietnam was contaminated and left barren. the defoliant known as agent orange was made from the same chemical substances as herbicides used in the us but it was twenty five times more potent. agent orange also contained dioxin the most toxic chemical ever produced. dioxin remains in the environment for many decades and causes a variety of health problems. several million vietnamese and american soldiers who fought in vietnam were affected by agent orange. their children and grandchildren continue to suffer the affects. dioxin remains in the soil of vietnam today and the land has yet to recover. but i
at that time the vietnam was divided into north and south the us supported the government of south vietnam and military intervention intensified after nine hundred sixty five. but the us made strong resistance from guerrilla forces who used dense jungle as their base of operations. defoliant spraying was begun in an effort to deny cover to the guerrillas by eliminating the jungle falling which. as the war escalated the spraying of deval and increased dramatically and much of the land in south...
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we should always be skeptical of anything government does. economic reporting is an inexact art and not always in science be one can i just ask your question? :lou: yes. megyn: unemployment is still very high. how are the american people doing? :lou: a sophisticated number, if you will, buried within the labor of statistics is the broadest measure of unemployment that is in the workforce, discouraged workers. that remains where it was last month, 14.9%. it is a sign that we are absolutely stuck where we have been. and that is a sincere shame. that means 23 million people remain in great pain and they are suffering as a result of an economy that is adamant in not knowing. megyn: some people have talked about prior -- when we talk to folks like you -- the number of people who have left the workforce altogether. that sort of changes the denominator. i hate going into anything math related. on the calculation, the point is you get a lower unemployment rate if you exclude a bunch of people from the calculation. is that still the situation? lou: in
we should always be skeptical of anything government does. economic reporting is an inexact art and not always in science be one can i just ask your question? :lou: yes. megyn: unemployment is still very high. how are the american people doing? :lou: a sophisticated number, if you will, buried within the labor of statistics is the broadest measure of unemployment that is in the workforce, discouraged workers. that remains where it was last month, 14.9%. it is a sign that we are absolutely stuck...
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see, the real internet is very dissatisfying to the government of iran. there is all sorts of stuff on the internet the iranian mullahs do not like so they've been busy closing off bits of internet to the iranian public. you can't use google. now you can't use youtube. you can't use specific sites where the government doesn't like what you can read there or what you can see there. they've been doing that forever. kind of playing "whack a mole" with the internet. iran's government is apparently getting tired of managing the increasingly complex patchwork of things they want to block the people in their country from seeing online and so instead they have a genius idea. they are suggesting they may just close off access to the real internet all together and instead build themselves their own internal government approved internet. just for their own country. so it's not really an internet. it is more like an iran-ternet. they will build their own. separate but equal. ridiculous right? but you can understand that sort of controlling dictatorial impulse here th
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americans, we get the government we deserve. it's been six days since mitt romney stood on that stage with president obama and lied for 90 minutes. and currently, polling shows more americans believe him. here's the famous sound byte for you again. >> there's an old saying in tennessee that says fool me once, shame on you. we can't get fooled again. >> that sound byte has a different meaning to me now. i hope it does to you as well. this is mitt romney's america. the rich get richer at the expense of the middle class and the poor in this country. older americans are on their own when it comes to health care. poor americans are at the mercy of the right-wing governors who want to go after the health care funds.
americans, we get the government we deserve. it's been six days since mitt romney stood on that stage with president obama and lied for 90 minutes. and currently, polling shows more americans believe him. here's the famous sound byte for you again. >> there's an old saying in tennessee that says fool me once, shame on you. we can't get fooled again. >> that sound byte has a different meaning to me now. i hope it does to you as well. this is mitt romney's america. the rich get richer...
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i going with no government help. that means that this crisis in terms of the additional capital within the region of 40 to 50 billion euros, which is an amount in terms of the gdp, which we are talking between 405% of the spanish gdp, which is an unsurmountable amounts. that means that regardless but this injection of cap it all, it has been done directly to the government. or injected into the bank, in which case it's not adding to the government. we're talking 4%. there's a number of discussions where this money is subject it into the government or into the bank. but at the end of the day, regardless of the capital we are talking about a very large amount in terms of the gdp. well, let's not end up with this analysis. obviously it has to be very resilient. you see the profit of the banks with the crisis claiming and reaching his first semester and you have a record with 12.5 billion before the very resilient, the diversification. the fact that we have a system at a stand alone subs serious hypertext through firewal
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and into the way that he actually intends to govern. so you can say i'm sorry, you can say i was completely wrong. you can reiterate what he said in the video which is the strategy to start with, but there's no taking them back because people feel they've got a window into your soul. >> thank you for joining me tonight. >> thanks lawrence. >> coming up. ohio, ohio, ohio. it is all about ohio. richard wolf and former ohio governor ted strictland will join me next. and in the rewrite tonight if mitt romney denounces todd akin for talking about legitimate rape, why doesn't he denounce the republican who uses the bible to justify slavery? that's coming up. [ male announcer ] feeling like a shadow of your former self? c'mon, michael! get in the game! [ male announcer ] don't have the hops for hoops with your buddies? lost your appetite for romance? and your mood is on its way down. you might not just be getting older. you might have a treatable condition called low testosterone or low t. millions of men, forty-five or older, may have low t.
and into the way that he actually intends to govern. so you can say i'm sorry, you can say i was completely wrong. you can reiterate what he said in the video which is the strategy to start with, but there's no taking them back because people feel they've got a window into your soul. >> thank you for joining me tonight. >> thanks lawrence. >> coming up. ohio, ohio, ohio. it is all about ohio. richard wolf and former ohio governor ted strictland will join me next. and in the...
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we did it because we had a government. we had franklin delano roosevelt who understood the power of our united action. >> there is such a thing as reality! am i the only one here that sees reality and the shift? it is insane. we're lying to ourselves. stop lying to yourselves. >> eliot: this notion that 47% of the american public are slackers, are freeloaders is fundamentally wrong and says more about the way mitt romney views us as a society than anything else. >> benjamin franklin, when they finally came to the constitution, he's walking down the road and the story goes a woman came up to him and said what have you given us? mr. franklin? he said "a republic if you can keep it." >> eliot: we have the most powerful nation on the earth the largest economy, the greatest wealth, the most creative innovative economy anywhere in the world and the world is imitating us. how is that? how is that? [ applause ] we're not at the precipice. continued greatness. >> stand up for what you believe in. you might end up being wrong. i mig
we did it because we had a government. we had franklin delano roosevelt who understood the power of our united action. >> there is such a thing as reality! am i the only one here that sees reality and the shift? it is insane. we're lying to ourselves. stop lying to yourselves. >> eliot: this notion that 47% of the american public are slackers, are freeloaders is fundamentally wrong and says more about the way mitt romney views us as a society than anything else. >> benjamin...
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jobs, they spend money on government and create government created jobs through federal expenditures. that's their argument. >> and -- i don't understand the physical metaphor. the vision is gray suited bureaucrats dripping out of a faucet. >> but weird when, you know, half of the republican party or more than half is saying don't cut defense because it's going to cost us so many jobs. >> and that is their -- right. defense is spending of 4% of gdp -- >> trickle down government would be wars, right? >> we have to leave it there, unfortunately, my friend, but you are going to be continuing this conversation. >> oh, yeah. tomorrow on up a.m. we have great sound putting george w. bush and mitt romney side by side to see how much they're taking -- they're playbook correctly from him. >> i never get tired of george w. bush clips. >> we will be practicing our love tomorrow. deep cut. >> oh. practicing our love. yeah. >> coming up, the air up there, former vice president al gore comes up with a unique excuse regarding president obama's debate performance. we will ask our debate panel for th
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there is no accountability in government. we have an education department -- we need to audit every one of these departments. we need some metrics, coles and objectives, we need to run the state like a business. >> mr. maloney, years ago, the word privatization -- today, there is praise for the privatization of the worker's compensation system. would you privatize other sectors of state government? if so, which once and house and went to do it? >> -- h -- which one and house and would you do it? -- how soon would you do? >> there is a long list of things the government does. i sat with a bunch of podcasters last night talking about how did -- i sat with a bunch of contractors last night talking about how to get infrastructure funding. >> what are they? >> i am in the construction field so i have been a around a lot of those people. it is so much cheaper for the state to do it. they did not look at the overhead. the overhead the state has is a huge number. if you put a pencil to it, there are a lot of things that the state cou
there is no accountability in government. we have an education department -- we need to audit every one of these departments. we need some metrics, coles and objectives, we need to run the state like a business. >> mr. maloney, years ago, the word privatization -- today, there is praise for the privatization of the worker's compensation system. would you privatize other sectors of state government? if so, which once and house and went to do it? >> -- h -- which one and house and...
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another twenty percent of americans get forty percent of their income from the federal government so their reliance today seventy percent of americans get more benefits from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes survey after survey poll after poll still shows that we are a center right seventy thirty country seventy percent of americans want the american dream they believe the american idea only thirty percent want the welfare state. ok carl you're muttering under your breath i was saying this goes to the philosophy question in. my basic problem and we can get into the calculus of how many people don't pay taxes for whatever reason my basic problem for this is that if you look at people that are struggling in this country sometimes it's not an issue of unemployment sometimes it's an issue of over employment they might have to have five jobs to get by they might have back breaking work and that work is far more tough than the people sitting pretty in the top percentage of this country that is that can get out of taxes because they've got fancy attorneys th
another twenty percent of americans get forty percent of their income from the federal government so their reliance today seventy percent of americans get more benefits from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes survey after survey poll after poll still shows that we are a center right seventy thirty country seventy percent of americans want the american dream they believe the american idea only thirty percent want the welfare state. ok carl you're muttering under...
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you know, you've got a party that essentially says, government spending doesn't create jobs except when it's defense spending but then you have tea party folks saying, we shouldn't be spending anything at all. you have a republican that doesn't know what it stands for on what to do about the middle east and i think it comes through in the candidate's speech today. he doesn't have specifics about what he would do in syria. he seems to hint that we would go to war there but when pressed on it he doesn't actually say, we're going to go there. so he has a lack of clarity, less than a month before the election, about how he would lead. >> let's talk about that, richard. because i was struck by his statements about syria today when he talked about helping to arm syria's opposition. watch this. >> in syria, i'll work with our partners to identify and organize those member of the opposition who share our values and then ensure that they obtain the arms they need to beat assads tanks and helicopters. >> five people who share our values, what does that mean? and then work to obtain that they have
you know, you've got a party that essentially says, government spending doesn't create jobs except when it's defense spending but then you have tea party folks saying, we shouldn't be spending anything at all. you have a republican that doesn't know what it stands for on what to do about the middle east and i think it comes through in the candidate's speech today. he doesn't have specifics about what he would do in syria. he seems to hint that we would go to war there but when pressed on it he...
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and into the way that he actually intends to govern. so you can say i'm sorry, you can say i was completely wrong. you can reiterate what he said in the video which is the strategy to start with, but there's no taking them back because people feel they've got a window into your soul. >> thank you for joining me tonight. >> thanks lawrence. >> coming up. ohio, ohio, ohio. it is all about ohio. richard wolf and former ohio governor ted strictland will join me next. and in the rewrite tonight if mitt romney denounces todd akin for talking about legitimate rape, why doesn't he denounce the republican who uses the bible to justify slavery? that's coming up. mike rowe here at a ford tell me fiona, who's having a big tire event? your ford dealer. who has 11 major brands to choose from? your ford dealer. who's offering a rebate? your ford dealer. who has the low price tire guarantee... affording peace of mind to anyone who might be in the market for a new set of tires? your ford dealer. i'm beginning to sense a pattern. buy four select tires, g
and into the way that he actually intends to govern. so you can say i'm sorry, you can say i was completely wrong. you can reiterate what he said in the video which is the strategy to start with, but there's no taking them back because people feel they've got a window into your soul. >> thank you for joining me tonight. >> thanks lawrence. >> coming up. ohio, ohio, ohio. it is all about ohio. richard wolf and former ohio governor ted strictland will join me next. and in the...
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there's a difference between talking in more moderate ways and pledging to govern as a moderate. the mitt we saw last week in that debate was certainly working double time to etch-a-sketch away some of his positions. take a look. >> i will not reduce the share paid by hi-income individuals. well, the current rates less 20% so the top rate, for instance, would go from 35% to 28%. regulation is essentially. this president has enacted job-killing eggs lations. i will eliminate them. what we did in massachusetts is a model for the nation. >> did you say on camera and other places that at times you thought it would be a model for the nation. >> you're wrong, brad. >> no, no, there's tape -- >> no, the tape out there -- continue to read the tape and the tape goes on to say for each state to be able to look at it. >> okay. but don't be fooled by romney's new language, of course. if the president wants to hold onto his job, he better make the american people understand that the so-called moderate mitt is just a mirage for the occasion. does he have it in him to do it? ron reg sentence an
there's a difference between talking in more moderate ways and pledging to govern as a moderate. the mitt we saw last week in that debate was certainly working double time to etch-a-sketch away some of his positions. take a look. >> i will not reduce the share paid by hi-income individuals. well, the current rates less 20% so the top rate, for instance, would go from 35% to 28%. regulation is essentially. this president has enacted job-killing eggs lations. i will eliminate them. what we...
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if he did that nationwide, he would not only win the presidency big but would get a mandate to govern but would have a lot of senators down ticket that would win with him. that would make him a much stronger president. now i think the chances of winning big have largely evaporated and it's likely we will have a much closer election now. the president obviously is still favored, but we have got a horse race. >> that's what makes these races so interesting, gloria, is how the narrative changes. it used to be months, from one month to the next. it is' now overnight. last week was 47%, now it's this, who knows what it will be next week when the vice president debates. one thing of david axelrod's response is that the president was basically taking the high road last night which almost makes it sound like the president's performance was a conscious tactical decision. do you buy that? >> i don't think they consciously decided to lose this debate and i don't think david axelrod is going to come out and say you know what, the president really blew it last night, although as jessica pointed ou
if he did that nationwide, he would not only win the presidency big but would get a mandate to govern but would have a lot of senators down ticket that would win with him. that would make him a much stronger president. now i think the chances of winning big have largely evaporated and it's likely we will have a much closer election now. the president obviously is still favored, but we have got a horse race. >> that's what makes these races so interesting, gloria, is how the narrative...
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trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. and trickle-down government. >> nine times, seven minutes. the term trickle-down government is nonsensical. literally. it has no meaning apart from the way it is being used politically. and its political use is to make the classic and i always thought vaguely emasculating and grossout accusation of trickle-down economics seem less understandable. make that seem less like an understandable critique of an economic plan and more like campaign mumbo jumbo you hear from both sides. it has been used to criticize economic plans that rely on supposedly magical economic effect of giving money to rich people. rich people doing better is supposed to trickle down to non rich people somehow. that is the core of mr. romney's economic ideology and economic plan. so i think they have coined this other competing trickle down term so the insult of trickle-down economics starts to just sound confusing and meaningless. trickle-down government, trickle-dow
trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. and trickle-down government. >> nine times, seven minutes. the term trickle-down government is nonsensical. literally. it has no meaning apart from the way it is being used politically. and its political use is to make the classic and i always thought vaguely emasculating and grossout accusation of trickle-down economics seem less...
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the bigger government, spending more, taxing more, regulating more, if you will, trickle-down government. >> romney was powerful throughout the debate and almost looking at the president as his prey dominating his responses and dominating, it seems, the moderator, jim leher. >> the president began the segment so i get the last word. >> you get the first word in the next segment. >> he gets the first word of that segment and i get the last word of this comment so let me just make this comment. >> he seems to relish his chance to go one-to-one with the president of the free world. nor did the president forceally challenge mitt romney's policies or his inconsistencies. romney's classic comment about dismissing the 47% of the country that are under various federal programs. his imgags position, romney's jobs in massachusetts to name a few and i have my own personal list which i'll get to. senator michael beties, a democrat here in his home state and michael steele, the former chairman of the republican national committee. both howard and michael are political msnbc analysts. i'll start with
the bigger government, spending more, taxing more, regulating more, if you will, trickle-down government. >> romney was powerful throughout the debate and almost looking at the president as his prey dominating his responses and dominating, it seems, the moderator, jim leher. >> the president began the segment so i get the last word. >> you get the first word in the next segment. >> he gets the first word of that segment and i get the last word of this comment so let me...
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you saw where that led us to a government surplus in 23 million jobs created. the republicans in the next decade, did all the same sorts of things that mitt romney would like to do today, passed a tax cut for the wealthiest that led to the lowest pace of job creation since world war ii, stripped back oversight from wall street a financial house of cards that collapsed in 2008. so president clinton made clear this isn't some sort of economic theory, we've tried these policies before and you saw where we ended up. let's pursue those that work. >> ben in terms of the strategy, we were talking about the fact that mitt romney has been trotting out i won't call it stakes, maybe dried pieces of chicken in terms of policy specifics, the $17,000 bucket, et cetera, is there concern that these are enough of a distraction to turn the dynamics of the debate away from a more aggressive posture that the president might take vis-a-vis mitt romney's obfuscation. >> the american people will be tuning in for specifics tonight. they know mitt romney can ably attack the president.
you saw where that led us to a government surplus in 23 million jobs created. the republicans in the next decade, did all the same sorts of things that mitt romney would like to do today, passed a tax cut for the wealthiest that led to the lowest pace of job creation since world war ii, stripped back oversight from wall street a financial house of cards that collapsed in 2008. so president clinton made clear this isn't some sort of economic theory, we've tried these policies before and you saw...
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we've shared what we've learned with governments and across the industry so we can all produce energy more safely. i want you to know, there's another commitment bp takes just as seriously: our commitment to america. bp supports nearly two-hundred-fifty thousand jobs in communities across the country. we hired three thousand people just last year. bp invests more in america than in any other country. in fact, over the last five years, no other energy company has invested more in the us than bp. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. today, our commitment to the gulf, and to america, has never been stronger. you see us, at the start of the day. he company phone list that's a few names longer. you see us bank on busier highways. on once empty fields. everyday you see all the ways all of us at us bank are helping grow our economy. lending more so companies and communities can expand, grow stronger and get back to work. everyday you see all of us serving you, around the country, around the corner. us bank. >> chris: check out foxnewssunday.com for behind-the-scenes feature
we've shared what we've learned with governments and across the industry so we can all produce energy more safely. i want you to know, there's another commitment bp takes just as seriously: our commitment to america. bp supports nearly two-hundred-fifty thousand jobs in communities across the country. we hired three thousand people just last year. bp invests more in america than in any other country. in fact, over the last five years, no other energy company has invested more in the us than bp....
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the federal government said we had to. >> the government made a very easy way for them to but it neared the federal reserve pitched and $30 million. >> i am not opposed to transparency. the state of new york is looking to bridge at the expense of jpmorgan chase. if a guy cheap price, it will end up paying for it now by trying to get the government off its back. stuart: would you deny that eric snyderman wants to be the governor of new york and he will enrich the government of new york? >> i would not deny that. i am not sure he will sit on that pot of money and distribute it back to investors. this is not accounting fraud. stuart: why is he raising is now five weeks and felt a major election? >> because he is an animal. and this is the $64,000 question. rudy giuliani was the attorney for the district of new york and arguably used. in order to gain and become mayor. the governor of new york and then ran for president of the united states. should politics influence prosecutions? absolutely not. but it does. very frequently. stuart: do you think he wins? >> yes. i think they will pay money
the federal government said we had to. >> the government made a very easy way for them to but it neared the federal reserve pitched and $30 million. >> i am not opposed to transparency. the state of new york is looking to bridge at the expense of jpmorgan chase. if a guy cheap price, it will end up paying for it now by trying to get the government off its back. stuart: would you deny that eric snyderman wants to be the governor of new york and he will enrich the government of new...
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a pasthun-dominated government there. so there is really little reason to see we'll get much out of the negotiations. secretary clinton is brilliant as a diplomat, she is trying to pull together what she has got. but the fact of the matter is, we're coming out. the taliban knows it. so does the karzai government, why would this not be a bad situation? >> so looking at history, sir, is the u.s. the soviet union? >> well, no, not at all. we're actually in there, and i think in a legitimate way. with a punitive expedition to try to respond to the attack, which was launched and coordinated from afghanistan. and, so i think the intervention was legitimate. it was flawed execution, starting with the bush team. president obama surged more forces in there, did some good on the ground. but it didn't produce an afghan government that was competent, and had some sense integrity, the key to afghanistan is pakistan, and possibly, they're on the verge of unraveling also, potentially with nuclear weapons, so tough situation for america.
a pasthun-dominated government there. so there is really little reason to see we'll get much out of the negotiations. secretary clinton is brilliant as a diplomat, she is trying to pull together what she has got. but the fact of the matter is, we're coming out. the taliban knows it. so does the karzai government, why would this not be a bad situation? >> so looking at history, sir, is the u.s. the soviet union? >> well, no, not at all. we're actually in there, and i think in a...